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A lot of people really seem to enjoy the lockdowns.
 

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I don't know if it's a labor shortage out of Covid Fears or a labor shortage due to Covid Relief. I think people are still getting $1200 a month to not work. Why would they when that beats what they'd earn otherwise. I don't think many of these people are worried about the dignity of work and self-reliance.
I BELIEVE, don't quote me, it's $300 ON-TOP of other unemployment benefits. Some sources: https://bench.co/blog/operations/unemployment-benefits-by-state/

Using from the above source:

Florida
The weekly benefit amount in Florida is 1/26 of your earnings in the highest quarter of your base period.

The minimum weekly benefit amount a Floridian could receive is $32 and the maximum is $275.

If you collect income while on unemployment benefits, Florida will disregard 8 x Federal hourly minimum wage (7.25 USD).

The maximum coverage for unemployment benefits is 12 weeks.

So people could be looking at $275+$300 = $575 a week in benefits in Florida.

Now again, I wouldn't even know where to start with all this, so don't quote me. I can't find these unemployed people to ask them and I doubt they'll tell me the truth on their weekly checks. BUT I surmise the $300 is on-top, cause in Montana they are looking to remove that $300. Otherwise it would be just normal UN-employment by the state. The $300 is coming from federal, that's why they have to get it re-newed with congress.

So someone used to making $10 an hour for 40 hours = $400, if they are unemployed they get $300 + whatever = that's well north of their $400. Yeah I'd stay at home playing video games too.
 
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A lot of people really seem to enjoy the lockdowns.
A lot of people enjoy seeing other people be miserable like they have been. "Now you know how my life has been- now you know what it's like to have nowhere to go and no one to see!" The quarantine life didn't start with COVID- many people have been living it for years now.
 

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A lot of people enjoy seeing other people be miserable like they have been. "Now you know how my life has been- now you know what it's like to have nowhere to go and no one to see!" The quarantine life didn't start with COVID- many people have been living it for years now.

Yeah I know.

I think at this point its about something other than that. I also see a lot of Norm McNormie types and their female equivalent. A lot of people simply seem to greatly enjoy not having to deal with other people's desires and individuality.

These "go along to get along" types seem to be the backbone of any dictatorship.
 

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Just leaving this here, and no this article really isnt about electric cars...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/ele...les-will-need-rise-in-mineral-supply-iea.html

Summary: We will need 6x more minerals by 2040 than we have today.

Now you know why I purchase metals like silver...

I BELIEVE, don't quote me, it's $300 ON-TOP of other unemployment benefits. Some sources: https://bench.co/blog/operations/unemployment-benefits-by-state/

Using from the above source:

Florida
The weekly benefit amount in Florida is 1/26 of your earnings in the highest quarter of your base period.
The minimum weekly benefit amount a Floridian could receive is $32 and the maximum is $275.
If you collect income while on unemployment benefits, Florida will disregard 8 x Federal hourly minimum wage (7.25 USD).
The maximum coverage for unemployment benefits is 12 weeks.

So people could be looking at $275+$300 = $575 a week in benefits in Florida.

Now again, I wouldn't even know where to start with all this, so don't quote me. I can't find these unemployed people to ask them and I doubt they'll tell me the truth on their weekly checks. BUT I surmise the $300 is on-top, cause in Montana they are looking to remove that $300. Otherwise it would be just normal UN-employment by the state. The $300 is coming from federal, that's why they have to get it re-newed with congress.

So someone used to making $10 an hour for 40 hours = $400, if they are unemployed they get $300 + whatever = that's well north of their $400. Yeah I'd stay at home playing video games too.

I think this is right.

You get unemployment at the state level, so that is your basic benefit.

Plus the FED government stepped in and added to the top of that for COVID. So you get a state payment that is taxed before you receive it ( if you so elect it to be when you file for unemployment ) PLUS you get the FED bonus on top of that, that is NOT TAXED even if you elect it to be ( at least that how it is in Kentucky ) right now. I know some people that got really F'd up on this and now owe FED taxes on their unemployment even though the state portion was taxed.

On top of that, you get more than than the standard time limit. It's extended until September, so my belief is you could have been on unemployment for a full year by now and still have until September. Similar to Obama's 99 weeks of unemployment back in 2009. I could be wrong on that, but I have a feeling the length of time is much longer than what use to be the standard.

I think honestly, we had a labor shortage/dismal work attitude before the COVID/Unemployment issue.

It's like when you get lots of money. Money doesn't change you, it just magnifies what is already there. I think we had a lot of lazy ass people to begin with who half ass'd their job and didn't care or really want to work, and now "free money" has magnified that.

Add to the fact these people are now on their 4th STIMULUS check now and have been getting $3400, $2400, $5600, and who know what now to further motivate them to not work and you end up with a situation of what we have now.

AND, I heard people are now getting an extra check monthly if they have kids? Part of their child credit?

Before COVID, it was impossible to get people out to my house for repairs/lawn service/anything.

After COVID, nothing has changed for me. It's still horrible. But to add on top of it I can't even go out and get help on my own now too.

Example Pre Covid: Want to hire someone to clear a couple lots I own since 2018. No one will show up, or if they do, they only do 50% of the work and never come back to finish it.

Example Post Covid: Want to hire someone to clear a couple lots I own since 2018. No one will show up, or if they do, they only do 50% of the work and never come back to finish it. Pissed off, I go to Home Depot, Lowes, or some other home improvement place and have to wait in a 30-minute line to walk in, find no help in the aisles as workers are gone or not present, find out no stump grinders or pole saws are available to rent or purchase bc of limited supplies bc of COVID.

Listen, I'll be completely honest.

I work my ass off. Mentally and physically. I get rewarded for it via money at the end of the month.

When I look at what I make and what it affords, how much I pay in taxes, and how much I have at the end of the day.. I get a bit miffed that family who earns less than me basically can "keep up with me" with doing 1/10th what I do and 1/10th what I make based on all of this.

And now, I can't even walk into Home Depot and buy what I want, with my surplus of money. I can't go eat a good meal without having to wait 3 hours only to find out they are on limited menu or that I can't even get the right change back bc of a coin shortage.

Now you add on Biden's new changes for taxes and you start to see my motivation to "do more, to earn more" is fading away.

As a lower income person, I could almost get free medical insurance for my family. I could get money for my kids to go to college. I could get stimulus checks. I could get a free phone and free internet and laptops for my kids. I could get my housing paid for and possibly my utilities too. I could get free groceries.

With all that covered... Shit, give me a bus/train ticket so I could go places and some hand me down furniture and I will sit at home doing nothing playing video games and making Tik Tok videos too.

For someone like me, money = having options.

Options have dried up, a lot. I still have more than others, but when I really examine them today.. a lot of them have hoops and setbacks or have dried up. I start to question if this is going to be worth it 10 years from now.

I keep telling myself this is just a temp. thing.. much like a recession that will end in time. But it still makes you evaluate things. Adding on trillions in more debt just makes me think this will be much more perm. than prior "bumps in the road" for our economy.
 

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The Fed just put out the Beige Book (they are reports from each Federal Reserve banks that get summarized). The most recent published today: Beige Book - July 14, 2021

Employment and Wages
[..] Labor shortages were often cited as a reason firms could not staff at desired levels, with firms in three Districts delaying expansion or scaling back services due to understaffing. Higher than average turnover and lower retention rates were reported in three Districts. All Districts noted an increased use of non-wage cash incentives to attract and retain workers.

[..]

Prices
Prices increased at an above-average pace, as seven Districts reported strong price growth and the rest saw moderate gains.
Pricing pressures were broad-based and grew more acute in the hospitality sector, as the reopening of hotels and restaurants confronted limited supplies of materials and workers. Construction costs remained high, but lumber prices reportedly eased a bit. Container prices returned to very high levels after having moderated in the spring.

What's interesting is I recently signed up for email newsletters from several government agencies, and the amount of data and details coming in is staggering. You get a real glimpse into what's going on within the different corners of the nation and within different sectors. I was a bit taken back as to how much datapoints and information out here that people simply aren't aware of.

There are like thousands of programs within the government I never even heard of.

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The Fed just put out the Beige Book (they are reports from each Federal Reserve banks that get summarized). The most recent published today: Beige Book - July 14, 2021

Employment and Wages
[..] Labor shortages were often cited as a reason firms could not staff at desired levels, with firms in three Districts delaying expansion or scaling back services due to understaffing. Higher than average turnover and lower retention rates were reported in three Districts. All Districts noted an increased use of non-wage cash incentives to attract and retain workers.
[..]
Prices
Prices increased at an above-average pace, as seven Districts reported strong price growth and the rest saw moderate gains. Pricing pressures were broad-based and grew more acute in the hospitality sector, as the reopening of hotels and restaurants confronted limited supplies of materials and workers. Construction costs remained high, but lumber prices reportedly eased a bit. Container prices returned to very high levels after having moderated in the spring.

What's interesting is I recently signed up for email newsletters from several government agencies, and the amount of data and details coming in is staggering. You get a real glimpse into what's going on within the different corners of the nation and within different sectors. I was a bit taken back as to how much datapoints and information out here that people simply aren't aware of.

There are like thousands of programs within the government I never even heard of.

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What type of newsletters are you reading?
 

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What type of newsletters are you reading?

Literally all of them. First sign up to this one FDIC subscription: https://public.govdelivery.com/accounts/USFDIC/subscriber/new

Afterwards on the confirmation page there will be a MASSIVE list of other newsletters from the government you can auto-subscription to by checking them and submitted.

You'll see IRS data, FTC, FCC, and all sort of agencies. There are even local government mailing lists you can subscribe to. You can sign up to all of them with a checkbox.

Some, 2 or 3 you'll have to confirm by clicking a link. Afterwards you'll start getting daily or, if you choose, up-to the moment emails of what's going on within the government.

I learned about several small business opportunities for loans and grants and awarded contracts that literally no one applies to - probably cause they are hidden deep within these newsletters.
 

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"Transitory does not mean prices will come back down." - Jay Powell (Chairman of Fed)​


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As suspected when prices go up, even if they do come down, it will never be at the levels it used to be at. When was the last time you saw gasoline under $1? Was 2001 for me. Steel prices going up like this means constructions, trucks, cars, and other things relying on them have to have their prices go up as well to keep up with basic costs or the profits will erode.

Let's look at inflation explained simply within just a year:


What solutions are there? You can't build houses with less material.
 
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I can’t get my Range Rover sport for 13 months.

What.
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What solutions are there? You can't build houses with less material.
The solution is to live in government-owned jail cells, essentially. Nobody can build or own their own home so they'll have to live in a cell (unit) the government built and owns.
 

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The solution is to live in government-owned jail cells, essentially. Nobody can build or own their own home so they'll have to live in a cell (unit) the government built and owns.

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but my closest neighbor just built a new home from the ground up the last 90 days. Finishing touches are going on it now.

Real estate is still very alive and well atm
 

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I can’t get my Range Rover sport for 13 months

Just read this:


A statement said: “The shortage of semiconductors is presently very dynamic and difficult to forecast.

“Based on recent input from suppliers, we now expect chip supply shortages in the second quarter ended September 30, 2021, to be greater than in the first quarter, potentially resulting in wholesale volumes about 50% lower than planned.

“We are continuing to work to mitigate this. We expect the situation will start to improve in the second half of our financial year.”


Source: Jaguar Land Rover issues urgent customer warning after major parts delays

So this quarter is going to be worse than the first quarter? And it's already at 13 months. You might be getting year 2022 cars in 2025 at that rate.
 
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Just read this:

A statement said: “The shortage of semiconductors is presently very dynamic and difficult to forecast.
“Based on recent input from suppliers, we now expect chip supply shortages in the second quarter ended September 30, 2021, to be greater than in the first quarter, potentially resulting in wholesale volumes about 50% lower than planned.
“We are continuing to work to mitigate this. We expect the situation will start to improve in the second half of our financial year.”

So this quarter is going to be worse than the first quarter? And it's already at 13 months. You might be getting year 2022 cars in 2025 at that rate.
That’s exactly what is going to happen. Who tf would order a 21 model when it will arrive just as the 22 model releases.

The second hand car market is going insane in the uk right now based on these lead times. Medium - premium level cars are actually appreciating.

strange times boys.
 
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Good! People, particularly Americans, need to slow down their insatiable rabid appetite for mindless consumption. Heaven forbid our demand for instant gratification go unheard for one goddamn second.

Maybe a reality check imposed upon us is needed, since nobody seems capable of self-reflection and/or moderation these days.. Make do with less, make do with what you already have. Most people have way way more shit than they need anyways (https://www.neighbor.com/storage-blog/self-storage-industry-statistics/).

At the end of the day you don't need the latest/greatest imported 4-popper stamped steal piece of shit just because it comes with a 2" larger touchscreen and allows you to in 2% of driving scenarios not use your hands to control the steering wheel because you are one lazy fat fuck. dRivE foR mE!

You don't need that new iPhone 14 X with the 6th camera lens and useless lidar. You don't NEED to fly anywhere internationally. Hell, I'm typing this on a 2012 Macbook Pro that works perfectly fine (and can actually run dual displays vs the brand new M1 pro my company shipped me) and I'm drinking a sub-$20-for-an-18-pack Busch light tallboy and it's hitting the spot just fine.

But yeah, voluntarily decreasing your "perceived" quality of living (emphasis on perceived) isn't something a majority of people will do by choice, so, let's see how this top down eco-social engineering works out...
 

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Good! People, particularly Americans, need to slow down their insatiable rabid appetite for mindless consumption.

You ALMOST sound anti-capitalist. You're in the wrong industry if you are concerned about over-consumption.

Internet marketing is literally getting people to buy more, whether it's Amazon products, online services, or buy into some idea. 80% of the GDP of the United States is around consumer spending.

Marketing is literally convincing one party to buy into another party's thing.

I know this next generation is borderline socialist, but I don't think you guys really understand what it means to have less and less options in stores. In poor countries where there is one option for bread and store shelves are empty - it's not an idea situation.

80% of the GPD is consumer consumption - what do you think will happen to employees/workers that can't work cause consumers are "consuming less"? How will they feed their family? Soup lines?

You can't just print money from thin air and give it to those soup line people... that would cause hyper-inflation - coincidentally something we are seeing right now as people want to work less.

It's already hard to hire low wage employees to do manual work, restaurant can barely keep staff, every single restaurant I've gone to and talked to the owners and/or managers are having the same staffing problem. You know who hard it is to get a simple plate of Wagyu beef now-a-days? People don't want to work - okay, then what? Come Labor day, September 6th, that money printed out of thin air is going to expire.

There is going to be a huge reality check for people living in this airy-fairy PC socialist mentality world they are living in. If you don't work you don't eat. But now anti-capitalist want you not to even have a place to go to work at IF you want to work - cause over-consumption.

And this argument is coming from an internet marketer? That's odd, given all our life-blood is directly tied to the GDP.

You don't NEED to fly anywhere internationally.

How in the world do you get to different countries than? Am I suppose to row across the Atlantic like Norse Vikings?
 
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Not sure if this is sarcasm, but my closest neighbor just built a new home from the ground up the last 90 days. Finishing touches are going on it now.

Real estate is still very alive and well atm
From me it was sarcasm- my standards are much higher. For many people, however, this is the actual solution they are offering.

We have a huge housing shortage in Canada at the moment and there's an election going on. Guess which government party is offering to build 100,000 (lol) housing "units" in the next however many years.

This is one of the reasons the tiny house movement keeps creeping into the minds of people under 40- the inflation on building supplies is another convenient way to convince people to lower their standards.

"You don't need a backyard or a spare bedroom. You just need a roof over your head, peasant."
 
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Good! People, particularly Americans, need to slow down their insatiable rabid appetite for mindless consumption. Heaven forbid our demand for instant gratification go unheard for one goddamn second.

Maybe a reality check imposed upon us is needed, since nobody seems capable of self-reflection and/or moderation these days.. Make do with less, make do with what you already have. Most people have way way more shit than they need anyways (https://www.neighbor.com/storage-blog/self-storage-industry-statistics/).

At the end of the day you don't need the latest/greatest imported 4-popper stamped steal piece of shit just because it comes with a 2" larger touchscreen and allows you to in 2% of driving scenarios not use your hands to control the steering wheel because you are one lazy fat fuck. dRivE foR mE!

You don't need that new iPhone 14 X with the 6th camera lens and useless lidar. You don't NEED to fly anywhere internationally. Hell, I'm typing this on a 2012 Macbook Pro that works perfectly fine (and can actually run dual displays vs the brand new M1 pro my company shipped me) and I'm drinking a sub-$20-for-an-18-pack Busch light tallboy and it's hitting the spot just fine.

But yeah, voluntarily decreasing your "perceived" quality of living (emphasis on perceived) isn't something a majority of people will do by choice, so, let's see how this top down eco-social engineering works out...
This is beyond naive. Good luck Komrade.
 
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Moderate consumption doesn't mean zero consumption. Not flying in the near term for pleasure doesn't mean never flying again ever. Not panicking like a child doesn't mean one is naive. Having a tempered long-term economic outlook does not mean one is a cOmMuNisT.

"Hey pal, maybe you shouldn't be drinking so much". ..... "STFU you prohibitionist!"

Consumers stopping and thinking a little bit before adding to their mountainous piles of debt isn't a bad thing for affiliate marketers. Heck, if people are being more careful with their purchases might they actually be doing more pre-shopping research? Which is conveniently where most affiliates insert themselves in the buying journey.

Amazon isn't going anywhere. Affiliate marketers aren't going anywhere. Money isn't going to evaporate tomorrow.

But by all means, continue with the schizophrenic juvenile hyperbolism, isn't that what all great forums are made of?
 
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Moderate consumption doesn't mean zero consumption. Not flying in the near term for pleasure doesn't mean never flying again ever. Not panicking like a child doesn't mean one is naive. Having a tempered long-term economic outlook does not mean one is a cOmMuNisT.

"Hey pal, maybe you shouldn't be drinking so much". ..... "STFU you prohibitionist!"

Consumers stopping and thinking a little bit before adding to their mountainous piles of debt isn't a bad thing for affiliate marketers. Heck, if people are being more careful with their purchases might they actually be doing more pre-shopping research? Which is conveniently where most affiliates insert themselves in the buying journey.

Amazon isn't going anywhere. Affiliate marketers aren't going anywhere. Money isn't going to evaporate tomorrow.

But by all means, continue with the schizophrenic juvenile hyperbolism, isn't that what all great forums are made of?

I normally do not do this, but how old are you?

What is your experience level in life?

I can tell you, as someone that is 43 and been around the block experience wise in many things, many of the things you listed are just not true, and also several are unrealistic.

I'm going to pick out a few things as a learning lesson on things not true or unrealistic.

Moderate consumption doesn't mean zero consumption. Not flying in the near term for pleasure doesn't mean never flying again ever. Not panicking like a child doesn't mean one is naive. Having a tempered long-term economic outlook does not mean one is a cOmMuNisT.

Things go away. Sometimes those things come back, but differently than before they went away. Sometimes they never come back. Take a look at lumber right now, or even gas.. it's not coming back the way it was before.

I'll give you an example.

In 2004 my wife ( who I wasn't married to at the time ) had no job and no credit. Recently divorced too. Because of the housing boom, she was able to get a $100k home with a very low interest rate on her mortgage. Tell me another time where a divorced woman with no job and no credit could have done such a thing?

If I would have known better, I would have also taken advantage of the housing situation. I could have made that into a Real Estate Empire. I could have also went BUST too. However, the fact is that opportunity is long gone now and can not be taken any more.

In 2008 I was able to rape negative billing offers as an affiliate. Once the hammer came done of those, things dried up a bit. It was off to different strategies and different offers that didn't perform as well. While affiliate marketing didn't dry up, how you played the game did. Not many people were able to survive the change, so YES... massive push and panic to "get all you can get" was the winning card to play.

Your flying example is a good one for me to pick over as well. In 2019 I traveled a lot of places and loved it. Since 2020 I havent been anywhere until just last week where I had to drive to get there. I missed out on almost 2 years of traveling and while you say "near term" and it doesn't mean "not traveling again", what if I die tomorrow? I lost 2 years of traveling overseas I could have done or what if mandates get put in place I need a COVID vaccine card to fly? Now I need to bend over for lies just to travel and enjoy life.

No thanks.

I am the captain of my ship. I determine when and where I do something. If we all put our life on hold we could miss out ( my real estate example, or not flying for now and then death ).

I'm not "holding back" just because someone thinks I consume too much. You never know if you are going to wake up tomorrow or be able to "fly again" or buy cheap real estate again, or cash out on what's working.

As the saying goes, make hay while the sun shines.

I could make an example of Bitcoin too. Everyone going balls to the wall back years ago got in good. Those getting in now, not so much. Bitcoin didn't die, but the game is not the same. Why should I hold back just because its a ton of electrical waste and pollution? Sorry, Im trying to enjoy life, not just get by day to day.. so massive consumption to get my early bitcoins was the name of the game.


Amazon isn't going anywhere. Affiliate marketers aren't going anywhere. Money isn't going to evaporate tomorrow.

Companies come and go all the time.

I guess you don't remember Ma Bell, or have heard of it.

Maybe Enron?

Big companies vanish all the time.

Also, shit happens all the time. During the pandemic I couldn't get toilet paper or soda from Amazon, so basically Amazon "did go somewhere" during COVID. If I can't get what I want from Amazon, then it's useless to me and you.

Affiliate marketing, don't get me started. I was doing this shit back in 1999. Affiliate marketing dies every year bro. Every year ad platforms, programs, offers, rules change. If you aren't raping it, you might be homeless next month. Let's not go down this road.

As far as money evaporating. Ask the Greeks. Ask Venezuela. I could list a few more for you.

Also, the government doesn't have to go away for your money to vanish.

With inflation, your money evaporates away daily. Add on greed and COVID and other things, and it evaporates more than you think.

$1k in lumber got me 2 nice sheds back in Dec 2019. Today, it barely gets me 1/5th of 1 shed and its only been 1.5 years.

Your money evaps away daily. If you ain't enjoying life now.. you wont be able to in 3-4 years at the same rate, unless you are working harder or finding loopholes all the time ( like the next Facebook to exploit, if you can figure out the exploit ).

Sorry, but life isn't about working harder every year. Nope. That shit doesn't fly. hahaha

It also isn't about waiting for the next loophole or next platform or next offer that scams people or the next "golden goose", it might be years before that comes again.

I'm not waiting a couple years to take my vacation to Bora Bora:
1. I could be dead in a couple years
2. The price could triple, making my "what I can do" very limited on Bora Bora
3. I might have to bend over and get a COVID shot and then die
4. Bora Bora could decide to not accept Americans, vaccinated or not
5. many other things I could list, that I have seen happen in my lifetime

If you waiting on shit in life, you losing.
 
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I'm 5. I have zero experience in life. Are these the answers you are looking for to help you feel better about yourself without having to actually question any presumptions you make in life, on a public forum? Do I need to present myself as a GOP-card carrying boomer to participate in this forum to be free of ad hominem attack?

Oh you think Amazon won't be around because companies come and go. What deep insight. Oh you want to fly whenever you want. So? Sorry captain but your life will continue without flying whenever you want. Or you'll pay more. But planes aren't going away. Relax.

Honestly what you did as an affiliate marketer in 1999 has as close to zero relevance for how the internet and world at large works today. But as you say, platforms come and go, so thanks for proving the point that panicking about short term disruptions is a futile waste of energy.

Heck, lumber is already affordable again and might soon become "cheap". Glad I didn't panic about that oh, what, just about a month or so ago? https://markets.businessinsider.com...rs-excess-inventory-supply-conditions-2021-08

Is it untrue that as an affiliate marketer savvy shopper keywords aren't lucrative AF? Discount codes, sale, x vs. y, comparison, best, etc? If you're not capitalizing on these I feel bad for you.

Opportunity abounds in times of constraint. Sure, consumer behavior changes, refocuses, expands and contracts, but it doesn't install Stalin and state agrarian reform overnight.. THAT is a juvenile fear.

"Oh I can't afford to go to the salon anymore, guess I'll just order all that shit on Amazon and do it myself to save money!"

If you can't see how you can still make money in volatile macro-economic conditions then you're not a very good marketer. If you panic at the first site of volatility you are either stupid or just itching for a life full of ulcers.

You can enjoy life even as life changes. I lived 8 years overseas, flew to a different country every 3 months. It was fantastic. Am I going to die because I can't do it right now because I want to and I'm the captain of my own ship so I guess everything is going to hell and a handbasket around me? No. I'm actually saving up a ton of money, and being patient (unique attribute for a 5 year old I know), and when I can, I'm going to fly more and I'm going to enjoy it so much more.

Being appreciative of luxury in times of scarcity is a natural part of life, it's called perspective.

People will continue to shop, SEO's will continue to profit, the world will continue to spin. This comment will still be here 12 months from now just like you all will be, as a testament to the absurdity of your myopic doomsday assessments.

Also, worth noting, seeing a lot of name calling and age insinuations but not a lot of real arguments of substance here, which makes me wonder, how old is everyone else on this forum?
 
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I'm 5. I have zero experience in life. Are these the answers you are looking for to help you feel better about yourself without having to actually question any presumptions you make in life, on a public forum? Do I need to present myself as a GOP-card carrying boomer to participate in this forum to be free of ad hominem attack?
So far, you have presented yourself as a 5-year-old. This post I guess confirms it.

I don't have to feel better about myself. I know who I am and how life works. I do what I want, when I want. Unlike you, who feels that everyone else should do what you think and believe, like sitting home all day denying themselves of a land rover or a flight to Bora Bora.

People who control their time and can control money, do what they want.. when they want.

I guess when you never have been an entrepreneur ( meaning, you have no real skin in the entrepreneurship game ) and you're making at best $1k to $2k monthly on your own sites, this is the logic you come to believe is the truth.

If you've ever had to stand on your own 2 feet without a weekly paycheck for more than 12 months, you would get what I'm telling you here.

The only reason you are being attacked is that your views are ignorant. It has nothing to do with being a boomer or GOP. Your views are selfish and unrealistic.

Oh you think Amazon won't be around because companies come and go. What deep insight. Oh you want to fly whenever you want. So? Sorry captain but your life will continue without flying whenever you want. Or you'll pay more. But planes aren't going away. Relax.

Amazon will go away. All companies do at some point. If you can't see that, then well my statement still stands. Some of the largest companies went belly up. For you to think Amazon won't at some time in the future is just ignorant. But I guess I shouldn't expect much from a 5-year-old.

My life will continue if I don't fly. But your's will too if I do fly. So why should you get a viewpoint to express to all of us here, but I don't? Life isn't about breathing and living and making it day by day, it's about enjoyment. I get more enjoyment if I fly somewhere now, then maybe in 4 years when it's 4x more expensive or I'm dead. There is no enjoyment in waiting 4 years to do something I can do now.

I guess you can't comprehend that. Oh wait, you're 5. NVM. Or maybe more realistically, you can't afford a land rover or a trip to Bora Bora.. or other consumer indulgences, so you lash out at those that can and do.

I get it, your side hustle only brings in a couple thousand a month.. so you gotta stay home and not spend to save up for a year or 2 to fly again. Got it.

But don't push that view or shit on us. Put down the "I hate the 1%" sign at your rally there in Portland Oregon and stop being a snowflake because someone has what you don't. Just because you need to save for a few years, doesn't I have to, or others have to.

You are pushing the things you hate about your life on us.

Honestly what you did as an affiliate marketer in 1999 has as close to zero relevance for how the internet and world at large works today. But as you say, platforms come and go, so thanks for proving the point that panicking about short term disruptions is a futile waste of energy.

Actually, you're wrong again. More ignorance.

Business is business. Always has been. Time does not change it. So it is relevant.

Opportunities come and go. That's business. That's affiliate marketing. What happened in 1999 is as relevant as what happened in 1899. Make hay, while the sun shines, was the same as 80 BC as it is 2021. This was also true in 1999.

Maybe for someone like you that can't make hay, it means nothing. For those of us that do, we totally get it and understand. Maybe you should learn to make some hay. Oh nvm, you too busy staying at home so you don't have to consume because you have no hay.

Some of us other folks, we've had to rely on no one else but ourselves.. for decades. We didn't get a paycheck handed to us. We had to actually live and experience life and see shit for what it actually was.

Heck, lumber is already affordable again and might soon become "cheap". Glad I didn't panic about that oh, what, just about a month or so ago? https://markets.businessinsider.com...rs-excess-inventory-supply-conditions-2021-08

Lumber might be relatively affordable again compared to its high, but not to what it was before the spike. I guess you don't get this. LOL

Prices go up, but not back down to their original. I guess you don't understand.

This is a lost opportunity. Similar to my real estate, travel, and affiliate examples I posted prior.

I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make a 5-year-old see the lost business opportunity.

Is it untrue that as an affiliate marketer savvy shopper keywords aren't lucrative AF? Discount codes, sale, x vs. y, comparison, best, etc? If you're not capitalizing on these I feel bad for you.

Is it untrue that they aren't as lucrative as they were in 1999? See, I can turn this on you too.


Opportunity abounds in times of constraint. Sure, consumer behavior changes, refocuses, expands and contracts, but it doesn't install Stalin and state agrarian reform overnight.. THAT is a juvenile fear.

This isn't about an overnight turn of reform. Also this pandemic hasn't been a 1-night issue either. You are flip-flopping and comparing apples to oranges now. No one mentioned overnight, things have dragged on for 1.5 years now.


If you can't see how you can still make money in volatile macro-economic conditions then you're not a very good marketer. If you panic at the first site of volatility you are either stupid or just itching for a life full of ulcers.

Make money? Bro, not to dick measure but I'm pretty sure I've made more money in 6 months than you will in several years combined. Let's not talk marketing highlights or making money highlights. I might not be the best, but I can guarantee I'm above your paygrade when it comes to marketing and making money opportunities.

As far as volatility, that's my JAM. I take full opportunity of gaps and arbitrage.

I guess you don't know. Maybe when your testes drop as you age past 5, you'll see.

You can enjoy life even as life changes. I lived 8 years overseas, flew to a different country every 3 months. It was fantastic. Am I going to die because I can't do it right now because I want to and I'm the captain of my own ship so I guess everything is going to hell and a handbasket around me? No. I'm actually saving up a ton of money, and being patient (unique attribute for a 5 year old I know), and when I can, I'm going to fly more and I'm going to enjoy it so much more.

Do you deny that you could die? What if you died today? Tomorrow? How good will saving up all that money will be if you died tomorrow and never got to go on that "flying more" goal?

Sorry, some of us don't want to wait 2-3 years to fly again. Some of us don't want to wait until we have $1m in the bank to buy our land rover. We can do that on $80K saved up. Some of us just are just waiting on our weekly affiliate payout to buy it though. We shouldn't have to "wait" because you can't do it now.

Stop pushing what you hate about your life, on everyone else. We aint the same. To the victor goes the spoils.

But you insisting everyone else be like you is selfish, which is what 5-year-olds are good at.


Being appreciative of luxury in times of scarcity is a natural part of life, it's called perspective.

I had a good life at this one. Instead of harrytwatter, I'm gonna call you Eddie Murphy.


People will continue to shop, SEO's will continue to profit, the world will continue to spin. This comment will still be here 12 months from now just like you all will be, as a testament to the absurdity of your myopic doomsday assessments.

Nobody said doomsday. This is where your flawed logic starts.

Lots of merchants couldn't sell to those that "still shop" because logistics got held up. Many merchants went under. Can you say 100% you will survive if you were a merchant, no you can't.

SEO changes daily. Can you say you will always rank? No, you can't.

RIght now, at best.. you're doing $1k to $2k a month on some shitty sites and 5xx error doxing your employer's website with screaming frog. Don't talk to me about SEO until you get a bit up the chain.

Profit can change on a dime. Can you say you will always make 20% margin? Can you always say you will do $1.5k a month? No, you can't.

All you can do and say is, once you hit your stride that you will pump it for everything it has. Otherwise, you are living in fantasy.
 
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Get's called out for ad hominem, doubles down and adds some straw hat. Man if you want people to read your posts go take a 30 minute walk to cool off so that you can return and compose something at least moderately concise and coherent.
 
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I don't see anywhere where he wrote that you shouldn't consume if you have the money. He was talking about average people taking on more and more debt to buy shit they do not need.

Like this is stuff you guys preach regularly - cut out the bullshit things, costs, people, etc. in your life and focus all your time, money, and effort on building. If you've got the money, fuck it, go nuts.

Of course the economy needs consumers to consume, but completely disregarding the fact that unmanageable debt leads to economic conditions that negatively impact everyone (eg the housing crash), not just the overleveraged, is not what I would have expected from some of the leaders of this forum.
 

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He's going on about iPhone 14 with 6 cameras - literally using hyperboles then complains others are using hyperboles. When someone breaks down his argument one by one with examples he's claiming fallacies and plays victimization. All trademarks of this next generation of anti-capitalist coming up. But there is a counter:

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If one doesn't want people to disagree with them or debate them than they shouldn't say anything. This is a discussion forum - means there will be debates and a lot of disagreements. That's how we all profit by being exposed to other people's ideas. Now if a person can't keep up, or handling being wrong or being against the grain, retake debate class.

For example: I'm pretty sure a massive amount of the audience members think bitcoin and cryptocurrency is a great idea, I think it's stupid and everyone involved thinking it's going to save the world is retarded. If you think bitcoin is going to save you guys - you guys are in trouble and need professional psychological help.

See, I can go against the grain without a problem. If people disagree with that statement they are free to attack it or me, and I counter. They are even free to use statements I've said in the past against me. It's what debating is about.