What other forums do you find valuable?

EyesExist

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What this makes clear, there's a NEED.

Where there's a need, there's money to be made.

Personally I like BuiderSociety. The moderation here has been great.
-There's been a block of abuse by foreign seo-farms.
-It's also been great at moderating some personalities that end up being the demise of forums like Wickedfire. Too much negativity will always crash any project . Laws of nature.
-quality of buyers/sellers is high. Genuine people for the most.

As others say, I've become a user of reddit regularly as of 2019.

Facebook, I could never find a group that was decent for the niches I needed.

I had created a forum that would focus on newbs, with 'hand to mouth' posts in a paid section on where to make money from eBay. I had plans to add more, but i got wrapped up in the issues with holidays followed by eComm's Wuhan issue now. To find people who actually want to contribute content = super hard.


Oof.. Just asaw the time.. almost 4am.. Anyhow, maybe this post is onto somethng... maybe BuilderSociety should launch subreddit, facebook group, etc.. takeover
 
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You're not in the focus group. I've been inside the course. I manage to see / log in / download every single course that hits the market thanks to knowing people. The Income School one is not for you (not you in general, you as in @bernard specifically).

All it boils down to is "here's an outline of stuff to do by the day." It goes up to like 60 days or something then it's "publish publish publish."

It's literally a paint-by-numbers framework for newbies to follow to remove uncertainty. You're paying for someone who's done it before to pat you on the back and say "don't worry, just keep following the plan." Meanwhile they say on their Youtube videos that most people won't make it. So that tells you that their plan itself isn't bulletproof.

The plan is literally like:
  1. Choose a niche and register a domain
  2. Install Wordpress and these plugins and our theme
  3. Do keyword research and come up with article ideas based on it
  4. Write your first post.
  5. Sign up for a YouTube channel and set it up.
  6. Write your second post.
  7. Create a video based on your first post.
  8. Write your third post.
  9. Write your e-book that you'll sell for $15 in your sidebar.
  10. Write your fourth post.
It's like that (zero exaggeration) and they provide guidance on how much money you should expect to make by day 30, day 60, day 100, etc. They celebrate "Pizza Day" when someone makes their first $5 in revenue. It's newbie central. And they recommend zero link building.

If you watch their Youtube videos you end up hearing everything that's in the course. I think they even have one that goes ever the course. I enjoy their videos. They're one of the few on there actually talking about SEO with a decent production value, even if it's on the baby level.

Others may enjoy joining their program, especially those unsure how to proceed and want LITERAL hand holding. You'd be wasting your money.
I 100% agree with this. In fact, I've personally been through nearly every major affiliate marketing course available (not sure if this is something to brag about) and they're basically all the same because they're all made for the target audience of the seller- newbies. The only difference is the packaging. I do give the Income School guys credit though- at least they actually attempted to lead the purchasers of their course down the road as opposed to most courses (but this might have been to lessen refunds).

I would recommend going for topic-specific courses, not general courses. For example, the Detailed SEO Blueprint course from Glen Allsopp is probably the most "advanced" course I've been through (I didn't even know what half the course contents were, lol). I also found Kyle Roof's On Page SEO course to be quite good, but it's not going to blow you away if you've already been doing SEO for a while.

This forum is the most valuable asset at my disposal, and I can get access to nearly every single course ever made through contacts of mine. I would recommend people not even bother looking for any other forums- this one is the best one available.
 

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Only thing I would pay for is traffic think tank.

the best seo outers are found at mtg or poker tournaments and other pay to win try hard stuff. You win at seo you get free network effect rent.

free network effect rent is awesome if you’re a capitalist. You can package it up and sell it up the value chain.
 

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I don't need any other forum.

What I need is more networking, which was a great benefit of STM forum. Speaking of the latter, it seems to have qualitively deteriorated, when I signed up a few months ago. They did have amazing meetups though.

It would be cool to have meetups on BuSo even conferences.
 

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RE STM (no idea why it fucked up my quote):

Nah, it's shit. I've been a member for years (longer than here), it's gone from being a good forum to being full of newbs worshipping gurus who don't even buy traffic anymore - and networks promoting themselves.

Just being honest. Spend those 200$ or whatever it costs a month nowadays on traffic - you'll learn more.
 
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Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse.

I've been on:
  • BHW
  • Warrior
  • Wicked
  • DigitalPoint
  • AffiliateFix
  • FLF
  • Cracked (man oh man)
I think there may be one or two more but I've dug into these. IMO, BHW does have good information or some starter idea capital for those who are just joining but once you find people coming on to the site to lie and manipulate others into believing they've guru'd marketing, it becomes distasteful.

I just recently discovered BuSo and immediately resonated with the free Digital Course provided. So much so, I downloaded every thread as a PDF. I was searching for leaked information from those paid forums (which if you Google properly you can find some leaked BSM's) and stubbled here. I think this forum is a gem among the others that actually is IM specific.

Other than that, I am a true advocate for plowing through your own path to find what works for you and keeping that to yourself. One thing about MJ's books, he discusses barrier's to entry. If everyone has the same information with the same secrets, the barrier will eventually become entry-leveled.
 
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I recommend Legiit's Facebook Group, it's a great place for like-minded marketing and business professionals. P.S, you can also hire talent from the group. Other is Warrior Forum.
 
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In terms of valuable communities to learn from, Whatsapp is very popular in my country (the Netherlands) and there are actually a couple good group chats. These chats are invite-only, only the creator can invite and they literally check your LinkedIn to see if you're any good. So, total newbies don't get in, but junior-level and above people do and any "check my business" spam is handled harshly. As a result, there's actually quite a few veterans in there too.

That + BuSo and that's it for me.