Sesame Credit - China's Gamification Of Their Citizens
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I saw this a while ago. It's pretty genius. You're gamifying consent and ostracizing dissent by outsourcing it to the very people you're controlling.
This is why I'm not a huge fan of socialism. I do understand the benefits and I understand how it zaps incentive for everyone. Could work during a utopian phase of technology though. But my point was that, like in this video, they want everyone ultimately to feel equal, be equal, act equal, think equal.
Once you've compressed the range of existence for society as a whole from 3 tiers or 5 tiers or whatever the number of "classes" you want to name... once you smash that down into one class, control is much easier. But the worst part is, since all the idiots are only concerned with being equal to their neighbor, you can slide the entire social order down the quality of life index and they won't care or know because they are still equal to their neighbor.
And of course what you're left with is a tiny ruling class and everyone else, with a ridiculous gap between them. You've taken their guns, you've taken their ability to earn or care to earn money, the care to learn, etc. The only way they could buck against the system is by banding together, but they can't because you're controlling the flow of information now too. They can't get educated on the issues.
It's beautifully done from one angle and just horrific from another. It's the type of thing going on in the USA right now too. All playing out right to plan, except the US wasn't clever enough to gamify it.
This is why I'm not a huge fan of socialism. I do understand the benefits and I understand how it zaps incentive for everyone. Could work during a utopian phase of technology though. But my point was that, like in this video, they want everyone ultimately to feel equal, be equal, act equal, think equal.
Once you've compressed the range of existence for society as a whole from 3 tiers or 5 tiers or whatever the number of "classes" you want to name... once you smash that down into one class, control is much easier. But the worst part is, since all the idiots are only concerned with being equal to their neighbor, you can slide the entire social order down the quality of life index and they won't care or know because they are still equal to their neighbor.
And of course what you're left with is a tiny ruling class and everyone else, with a ridiculous gap between them. You've taken their guns, you've taken their ability to earn or care to earn money, the care to learn, etc. The only way they could buck against the system is by banding together, but they can't because you're controlling the flow of information now too. They can't get educated on the issues.
It's beautifully done from one angle and just horrific from another. It's the type of thing going on in the USA right now too. All playing out right to plan, except the US wasn't clever enough to gamify it.
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How do you perceive this as being accomplished in the USA?
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Social Security, Welfare Programs, Affordable Care Act, Patriot Act, National Security Agency, Cyber Security Information Act, constant lobbying against guns (disarm the populace makes an uprising a lot more difficult), allowing the constant inflation of the cost of education with no justification. I'd say the US is more fascist at this point and will never be pure anything, much like crony capitalism has plagued the nation since forever.
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I see. Big government that wants to elicit control. Yeah, I can't argue that.
The only difference I see is that in the OP the government is acting in the government's best interest. But here in America those laws were either put in place with citizens best interest (at least in theory) or at the best interest of corporations.
The days of crony capitalism may be gone but it just been replaced with corporate capitalism in the same way that small business is being edged out by big business.
The only difference I see is that in the OP the government is acting in the government's best interest. But here in America those laws were either put in place with citizens best interest (at least in theory) or at the best interest of corporations.
The days of crony capitalism may be gone but it just been replaced with corporate capitalism in the same way that small business is being edged out by big business.
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That's the problem with reality versus fantasy of what people would like the world to be like, people aren't equal. There are smarter people than you and dumber people than you. There are richer people than you and poorer people than you. There are people that are willing to work hard for their rewards and there are people that would love a system where everyone is equal to them cause they are lazy and don't want to do anything in life.
Reality is it's the 99% versus the 1%. One way or another a class system will always exist, even without government organization. Think back to primary school days when certain groups of people hung out with each other and there were outcasts among all groups. It's human nature to have rivalry, competition, and to have real life winners and losers. Now in this instance, the "winning" is being loyal to the state. In other instances the loyalty is to your class, and to throw hate towards the "rich" or vice versa "poor" which you are not a part of.
People can sit back and hope and pray something changes in their lives, and while they do that people that hustled and got power are going to make all sorts of laws to pacify those people at a lower level, who sit around waiting for hope and change.
"You're either the hunter or being hunted."
We're just seeing the very beginning of gamification here... Ironically the one way to opt-out seems to be to disconnect from social media. What do you think is going to happen when one of these major corporations in the US gets gamification right?