Any advantages to using joomla or drupal? :)

SheIsaBlogger · Sep 23, 2014

I started off my first site with Wordpress and now I want to make a "pumper" ... (I think thats what its called?) and I'm curious about Drupal and Joomla. Wordpress seems like its the most popular but what are the advantages to these other ones?

Shuga · Sep 23, 2014

curious about this too, hopefully somebody can chime in

Daquan · Sep 24, 2014

When it comes to these decisions, the question to ask is "how big and supportive is the community." Cos finding answers to questions, finding plugins and template hacks... that requires a community producing it.

Wordpress
Drupal
Joomla

In that order is your biggest communities. With Wordpress way at the top.

If you're just making a pumper then you'll be fine. If you want to make a fully complex money site, you'll want to be a little more versed in coding, like PHP.

stargazr1968 · Oct 4, 2014

Daquan said:
When it comes to these decisions, the question to ask is "how big and supportive is the community." Cos finding answers to questions, finding plugins and template hacks... that requires a community producing it.

Wordpress

Drupal

Joomla

In that order is your biggest communities. With Wordpress way at the top.

If you're just making a pumper then you'll be fine. If you want to make a fully complex money site, you'll want to be a little more versed in coding, like PHP.

How big the community is is important, but it's not the be all and the end all. What matters more is how good the platform is to start with. All 3 of those have huge communities, so it's irrelevant in this scenario.

TheSeo1 · Oct 8, 2014

Everybody and their mothers are on wordpress. While some consider it a reasonable footprint, I think about 20% of all sites on the web run on wordpress... so not like you're using a CMS specifically built for PBNs. Much worse footprints are SEO hosting and excessive blocking of crawlers in my opinion.

If you want to do something different, there are different ways. Go with drupal or joomla or modx (which is a bit more difficult to work with) if you want something extraordinary. Both drupal and joomla have big enough communities and more addons or templates you'll probably ever need.

For me, sticking to wordpress isn't that much of trouble. Too many sites on the web running on it, it's the most popular CMS by far so it's not like an incredible footprint. Beside that, if you're using the 'pumper' for a private BLOG network, what's better than a pure, traditional blogging platform :smile:

soynacho · Oct 8, 2014

I think that if you're running a mega PBN then you have to start diversing it, but for a unique pumper site then WordPress would suffice...

MightyOwl · Oct 9, 2014

^^ totally. Else WP is more than enough for any sort of pumper . Pumper eh ? checked out VinnyPolston's new plugin ?

TheSeo1 · Oct 9, 2014

soynacho said:
I think that if you're running a mega PBN then you have to start diversing it, but for a unique pumper site then WordPress would suffice...

It's not about having 1 or 10 or 100 sites in your PBN, it's about how they look, if they have footprints. People in the gambling niche are using almost exclusively WP based PBNs, but they're golden quality. unique content, 10-15 pages each, unique IPs, never more than 30% of the whole PBN linking to the same URL, max 2 posts per PBN to money sites, others to authority / non competing sites.

Somehow I got a feeling everybody's worried too much about using WP. I mean we're emulating real blogs aren't we? Like 25% of the web runs on WP... like mentioned above, again, it's not like we're using a super obvious CMS by WP.

For me, avoiding footprints > fear of WP.

fatboypdx · Oct 9, 2014

I've honestly never used them before BUT, what I have seen lately is bootstrap themes and sites are getting way more popular than wordpress (since everyone is trying to login to each others sites.

soynacho · Oct 9, 2014

TheSeo1 said:
It's not about having 1 or 10 or 100 sites in your PBN, it's about how they look, if they have footprints. People in the gambling niche are using almost exclusively WP based PBNs, but they're golden quality. unique content, 10-15 pages each, unique IPs, never more than 30% of the whole PBN linking to the same URL, max 2 posts per PBN to money sites, others to authority / non competing sites.

Somehow I got a feeling everybody's worried too much about using WP. I mean we're emulating real blogs aren't we? Like 25% of the web runs on WP... like mentioned above, again, it's not like we're using a super obvious CMS by WP.

For me, avoiding footprints > fear of WP.

Completely agree with you. I don't think WP is a big enough footprint. But if you start worrying about footprints then you could diverse it a little and be on the safe side.

vinnypolston · Oct 9, 2014

@JT1, Thanks for the mention!

Personally, I'm completely fine with using Wordpress for pumper sites. According to a study by w3techs, 23.1% of all websites are running it.

Completely agree with @TheSeo1 on this. I'd be much more fearful of using SEO hosting than worrying about what CMS I'm using. I used to suggest SEO hosting when people asked me. Now I just suggest diversifying between a bunch of cheap hosting through large providers.

This is just me though. I've been so busy building a plugin to make pumper sites easier that I haven't done any building recently. Just started back up now that development is over.

Maybe others who have more recently been building up their networks can advise some more on this though? Good stuff!

RiverStyx · Oct 10, 2014

For pumpers pretty much whatever is fine. But, please for the love of all that is holy don't use either of those for a money site. When I worked SEO agency side I had clients come in with Joomla or Drupal sites and they were the absolute worst from a technical SEO point of view. I had to hope the developer knew how to fix what I told him to and given the length of time it took him to sort anything out I seriously have my doubts.

The best cms's I have used for SEO have been custom...wordpress is fine but I find it a little convoluted to do things.

Back in the day I just hand coded static html sites but things have come on a bit since then.

(must go work on my php skillz......)

ConversionKing · Oct 11, 2014

TheSeo1 said:
never more than 30% of the whole PBN linking to the same URL

There is a trick that can help you get around this, if your sites are all in the same vertical and niche. You can link to your money site, or even two or three, across your whole network, if you also are linking to other sites across your whole network (obvious authorities).

I agree that you shouldn't, for sure. But if you have to, just blend it in. You can even do things like linking to your own sites on 50%, and then choose a few that you don't own to go 75%, and even some 100%. You have to hide your true intentions, and you can do that by letting other nails stick out higher than your own. Just choose nails that won't get you deindexed.