Introductions Thread

SmokeTree said:

Sorry, no like here. How about starting over and seeing what you might have to offer before telling everyone you're basically here to take.

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I don't need your like. Or your negative energy. And I am not selling anything. My username comes from a book called "Kingpin: How One Hacker Took Over the Billion Dollar Cyber Crime Underground" By Kevin Poulsen.

The username "YouBuyWeRush" was used in that book and I thought it sounded cool.

It's ok though. If this is the kind of welcome I get then I will gladly accept this and move on to another community.

Thank you.

Potatoe said:

What are you looking to learn? What guidance do you need? What's your experience so far?

Welcome to the forum!

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I am new to the game but have knowledge in system administration and some penetration testing. Nothing impressive and certainly nothing to brag about. But yeah, that's it.
Thank you.

SmokeTree said:

When you use a name that climbs to the top of mountains and screams "I'm here to sell something" and then pretty much confirm that by saying:



Sorry, no like here. How about starting over and seeing what you might have to offer before telling everyone you're basically here to take.

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Also, I would like to add that I feel sorry for you and that I pity you for being so hostile and rude and making assumptions without having the basic human decency to AT LEAST ask a few questions before assuming.

You are a sad and bitter human being who's brain is overloaded with tech because he does not have significant other's who love him in his life.

Because of this, I cannot be angry at you. Instead, I feel sorry for you and I pity you.

Welcome, don't be surprised if you get other comments or reactions from members here.

If you were lingering around reading some of the threads before joining you may know exactly what I'm referring too. There is a lot to learn and not everything works from one industry to the other, but the concepts and strategies are around for us all to try and figure out what works best for them.

I think it's pretty cool where you got your username from, but until you defended it and let @SmokeTree know where it came from, I was assuming the same thing as he was.

See you around.

Jitsiereveld said:

Welcome, don't be surprised if you get other comments or reactions from members here.

If you were lingering around reading some of the threads before joining you may know exactly what I'm referring too. There is a lot to learn and not everything works from one industry to the other, but the concepts and strategies are around for us all to try and figure out what works best for them.

I think it's pretty cool where you got your username from, but until you defended it and let @SmokeTree know where it came from, I was assuming the same thing as he was.

See you around.

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Thank you. And I can understand how my username would give that connotation.

I was just feeling a little hurt, sad, and angry when I saw the comment from SmokeTree. The reason for that is because before reading his comment I read his description and saw that he is a developer and linux consultant.

This got me excited to see what he would comment to me.

When I saw his comment, I got hurt because if I was in his position, I would have asked "Hey, your username is YouBuyWeRush are you here because you are trying to sell something?"

To SmokeTree directly: I'm sorry for assuming that you have no love/female connection in your life and that all your brain is good for it "tech overload"

I said these things out of anger. So yeah. Sorry.

It's all good, as you could possibly imagine, great communities like this see a lot of people looking for answers how to get rich quick with all that internet money out there and why some people reply the way they do because it's not exactly that easy.

It's part of the reason why my description says "I'm just going to listen and learn today..." Haha, actually kind of funny now that I think about it, but it changed after another member put me in my place after an incorrect assumption/suggestion of mine a while back. I got just as butt hurt as you might have just now, but I sure did learn from it and stuck around to keep learning from the real masters around here.

Good luck!

YouBuyWeRush said:

I pity you for being so hostile and rude and making assumptions

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YouBuyWeRush said:

You are a sad and bitter human being who's brain is overloaded with tech because he does not have significant other's who love him in his life.

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lolwut?

Damn man 3 messages in and you've already burned one of the most valuable bridges on this forum. I'ma grab some popcorn and wait to see how this shitshow plays out...

mmm91492 said:

lolwut?

Damn man 3 messages in and you've already burned one of the most valuable bridges on this forum. I'ma grab some popcorn and wait to see how this shitshow plays out...

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You clearly did not read my apology to SmokeTree. Let me quote it for you. Here is it: "To SmokeTree directly: I'm sorry for assuming that you have no love/female connection in your life and that all your brain is good for it "tech overload"

I think what happened was that you got too excited trying to burn me at the cross before examining the entire thread.

Anyway, there it is.

mmm91492 said:

Damn man 3 messages in and you've already burned one of the most valuable bridges on this forum. I'ma grab some popcorn and wait to see how this shitshow plays out...

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There's no need to grab popcorn. Because there is no "shitshow." I apologized. And I explained that I was acting out of anger.

Even if SmokeTree were to come back at me with something extremely rude and nasty (which, i'm pretty sure he won't) I would not respond.

I'm really sorry to everyone for starting off on the wrong foot.

To all future readers: there is no need to instigate this. Let it be. And let's move on.

YouBuyWeRush said:

To SmokeTree directly: I'm sorry for assuming that you have no love/female connection in your life and that all your brain is good for it "tech overload"

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Well, you were definitely wrong there. If you were to even get close to what I'm about, you'd have to add "musician" to that list. I'm not even going to weigh in on the school of thought that one has to have a "significant other" to be happy. I'm going to simultaneously accept your apology while also writing that off as "you're like this because you have no GF/BF/etc". That was standard in the 80's when I was on BBS systems. It's 2017, this should probably be deprecated.

You're welcome to read through my post history and judge off that. I spend a lot of time writing about Linux and DevOps.

Take a look around, you'll see why a lot of the regulars here are so protective. You'll also see a culture of mutual improvement. You'll see an admin team that not only cares, but they're here every day. At the end of it all, you'll see the reason.

Seems like everyone got a chance to respond to one another. The playing field is level and everyone got a play. Going to lock this thread, also to the OP and any other newcomer, stop asking for likes. We'll probably start banning for that.

Born in Melbourne and grew up in a small town just outside the city, although most of my adult life has been in North QLD where I am now.

Welcome aboard mate, from Melbourne myself

JJ Eliott said:

Born in Melbourne and grew up in a small town just outside the city, although most of my adult life has been in North QLD where I am now.

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Nice. Love North QLD. My wife grew up in Atherton on the tablelands near Cairns. Beautiful up there.

Hey guys, glad to be here and I decided to throw a quick intro.

I've been in web design for 10 years. Had my own agency but I had 0 time. Getting into my late 20s I decided it is a time for a change.

One winter night 3 years ago me and a buddy of mine got drunk and decided that it is time for passive income and having time(and money) to explore the world.

We had 0 knowledge about SEO or e-marketing at the time... but If all those guys were doing it, we had to try that as well. So we put up a site with 100% duplicate content (cos we were lazy) and linked it from a few of the sites we had access to from the agency (sitewide non-niche footer links).

A month later the site started making 1k/m. So that gave me the motivation to start reading and getting more in the affiliate marketing.

Fast forward 3 years, right now I've got several affiliate sites that generate 5 figures/m, closed my design agency and finally have time to travel around and enjoy life.

My goal and focus at the moment are building an authority site with mostly white hat techniques and delivering value. This is how I found Builder Society. See you around.

Hi Builders..

Glad to be part of this society...

I have been in IM for around 10 years. I built my first site in 2007 with blogger and then migrated it to wordpress with its own domain [back then it was such an achievement. still remember sleepless nights when i migrated from free blogger to hosting on my own server]

Throughout these 10 years, I treated my online adventure as side project. I had my secured job so trying new ideas online was never be a problem ..

I have tried and had lot of success with affiliate marketing with adword and yahoo [back then it was so easy.]..done 100s of MFA. MNS sites..done link spamming..blog networks [remember BMR/LinkVana]

This time, however, I am going to do it seriously and going to treat it as a business. This is the first time i am doing IM business full time as well. Going to give 100%...

What I am working on

• Two aged sites with potential to grow them in authority sites..lots of room to expand
• eCommerse store I am working on..this one just started last month
• planning to start new site in new verticle

Looking forward to be part of this community to grow my business...

Joined recently and already read through entire Digital Strategy Crash Course - WOW...my favourite was the Traffic Leaking section.

My IM experience was from late 90's/early 2000's and last thing I was successful with was my own ebook (actually 2) that back in 2001 sold about 1,000 copies with 14,000 newsletter list.

However, my offline B2B work was taking off at the time so I focused on that instead of online and sold the online business.

B2B biz doing very well (already work mostly from a laptop and phone from anywhere including our commercial office) but wanted to add another strong stream of income and push myself to go as far as I can online.

GeorgeG, welcome to the team!

Do you design your own sites since you have the experience? I do, but it a lot of front-loaded work. The benefit is zero bloat and absurdly fast loading time (top 99% of the internet). I've seen a lot of evidence from my own work on optimizing established sites where this boosts rankings but in particular seems to make you a shoe-in for a lot more long-tail keywords.

That's killer that you have 3 sites earning now. I assume they are grey-hattish or black, since you want to go white hat at this point? I would definitely use some of that cash flow to get a big, clean site established so you can feel more stability, or at least not a sense of impending doom.

That's crazy that the duplicate content got you to $1k per month. Google doesn't care that much about syndication, although I think they're taking efforts to apply invisible rel="canonical" meta tags so any page rank a duplicate post builds is applied to the original. That's why I always recommend people add a paragraph at the top introducing the post and one at the bottom with on opinion or summary. It doesn't take much to become unique in the eyes of Google. They just want "added value."

Catch you around the forum, glad to have you aboard.

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Welcome, Joe.

B2B is insane. I've never touched as much cash flow as I did then, because everyone accepts the fact that prices are "inflated" and keeps passing it around. You can get some seriously high ROI too with B2B if you're crafty, especially online.

What are you thinking about getting into online? How will you build this next revenue stream?

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Welcome, senty4love.

Going full time is a big move, congratulations. It'll help that you're extremely experienced and have likely learned a lot of what to do and what NOT to do. It took a lot of failing on my side due to take silly spam link risks before I started playing it straight.

BMR and all of that... the memories! I made some insane cash with ALN back then ranking for credit card terms. Of course it didn't last long, especially since I was a late adopter. An old homie of mine was responsible for bringing the whole thing down after he botted the entire process of building sites, submitting them to the network, and posting to them. He and his partner started selling posts, but would let people use the same spun article with tokens in it. So it wasn't very hard for the search engines to take it down. He made more selling those pickaxes than he ever would have swinging them. Oh, the memories of times I'd sooner not return to for the lack of consistent earnings.

Do you think you can manage 4 sites at the same time and bring them to their full potential? I'm of the school where I'd get them all "seeded" and let them age as I focused solely on the one doing the best. Then I'd get systems in place to remove myself from it, or flip it, and then focus on the next.

Anyways, welcome aboard. Looking forward to watching your adventure unfold.

Not sure yet but getting some ideas - some kind of authority site with affiliate and/or my own products, I think. I originally thought of possibly doing some Kindle publishing since I already have some ebooks I wrote but never did anything with.

I was also thinking of a Software as a Service or Service as a Service but both are a lot of work and there is no one idea that I am so gung ho over. (I am currently spending tens of thousands per year in SAAS for different aspects of my current biz so trying to find one for myself, but I am NOT a developer nor do I want to take on partners.) If I did one, it would be B2B only.

Just absorbing info right now and don't want to just jump onto anything. It has to be something I can build/run in 2hrs a day and can do it early between 5am-7am. Rest of day I'm running my main business.

I am fortunate in that I will be able to re-invest 100% back into the new stream as I do not need any of the money to live on.

Any suggestions?

Ryuzaki said:

Do you design your own sites since you have the experience?

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Yep. Exactly for the same reasons. Speed is key to the good UX and conversions imo.

I saw your theme buso lightning in the marketplace. It is really refreshing to see something that can be built upon and not the stuff from themeforest that loads 50 js libraries.

Ryuzaki said:

I assume they are grey-hattish or black

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More in the gray. They are relatively safe. I am lucky I guess I am in a niche that google monitors closely and 2 years ago I had a phone chat with a google rep. They told me that I got to state clearly my methodology for the reviews and put up more useful content to the site beside the reviews.

We talked mostly about content but that made me think that if they monitor my content with humans(and not only the algo), they most likely can see my PBNs as well. This got me scared and I switched from PBNs to guest posts on real sites with traffic. Using the pbns as tier 2. This is working good for the moment. Even saw a boost after the update they ran last week.

But aff sites are aff sites. They convert well but are made mostly for the beginners. Now I want to build something more brand / value in the niche that will be appealing to the experts as well. (You know how it is, people with a bit more experience can spot the aff site structure and even if they visit you, they never come back)

Ryuzaki said:

That's crazy that the duplicate content got you to $1k per month.

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I guess just a lucky timing. Then a month later I got hit by panda. That's how I learned about the algos the hard way and rewrote all the content. And then I got hit by the layout algo, so this was when I learned that you must have some text above the fold. And then it started to rank well and I ve been hit with 4 different negative seo campaigns. But yea, I guess this is the dynamics of a competitive niche.

Ryuzaki said:

Catch you around the forum, glad to have you aboard.

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Thanks for the warm welcome. See you around

Yo dudes!

Consider this my "intro" thread. Some of you may or may not remember me from WickedFire or an Affiliate Summit years back. I spent a few years doing both SEO and PPC. Made a small chunk of change with SEO back in the day (mid xx,xxx) but made most of my money back then with facebook ads ($1k a day at my best point). Anyway, I've long since been out of the game and actually ended up joining the military (weird, I know.)

Recently found out I have my first kid on the way (I'm 27 now) and want to get back to making cash online. I still have a SaaS site with 5-6 recurring clients (~$200/mo) and some old adsense sites that combined make ~$20/month lol.

Found this place last night and my jaw dropped reading about stackcash and ddasilva's site. Spent a couple hours before bed last night reading a bunch of stuff on here. Super pumped to get started again and glad I found the right community to keep the motivation right.

So...... time to brain dump a bunch of questions in no particular order.

1) I saw someone here in one of the threads mention disavowing links. Is that a standard SEO practice now? Monitor your new links and disavow ones you don't like?

2) Webmaster tools. Should you use a VPN(separate IPs) + separate accounts for webmaster tools for each domain you have so Google doesn't punish all of your sites at once?

3) Analytics. Typically I've always used clicky. Should I also add in Google Analytics to provide them more data about my bounce rates? I plan to make a quality site(s) with low bounce rate and I've read bounce rate is a ranking factor. Without having GA on the site I don't see how they could get that data outside of people who click "back" to bounce back to google which would be partial data.

4) Ahrefs. Paid account worth the $100/mo? It seems like it is worth it for being able to fully reverse engineer competitor data. And also useful for (question 1) tracking your own links and disavowing unfriendly ones. Guess I'm just trying to feel out how many people think the same.

5) PBNs. If I were to go this route I would think the best way would be separate IP's, picking up expiring aged domains with good backlink profiles and restoring the original content, then a few weeks after re-indexing add in links to money site. The PBN sites would of course be either niche related or broad "website design gallery" type sites. Good idea? Bad? Worth the ~$50-$100 per site?

6) Tiers, Do people/should people still spam the living fuck out of their first tier of backlinks?

7) Social. Do you guys fuck with buying followers, or mass follow anyone or anything? Or do you just start slamming social content and hoping for some natural followers. Or does followers even matter in google's eyes?

I'm sure I'll have a lot more questions on the way. Also I realize I may just need to read some more on some of these questions so feel free to tell me to....


Anyway. I look forward to hanging here with you guys and getting the ball rolling again.

P.S. How many posts do I need to be able to lurk on other people's profiles?

1) Yes, disavow, spammy scraped sites. Disavow works faster and better than it did in the past.

2) If you're going the white hat route I wouldn't worry about this. Black hat / PBN, probably wouldn't use it at all.

3) Google gets bounce rate by looking at users returning to the search results. They also likely get it through Chrome, even though their vague on that. You're fine not using Google Analytics.

4) Ahrefs is worth it for both of those reasons

5 + 6) No personal experience here but, Matthew Woodward has a pretty solid looking tutorial with a checklist on footprints One thing he leaves out that has been said in this forum, is the PBN sites should be getting traffic from Google before linking to your money site. Also use this bot list.

7) Not sure how much it matters to Google but as an additional traffic source it's worth it. I go for natural but you could look into the mass follow approach. Buying followers is a tactic I could never get behind, why go after low engagement, spammy accounts.

Welcome to the forum @doooge! You look little rusty but it should not take you long before you get a full-on update in current state of all things get money get paid. Best start will be to take some time and read through the crash course here

Why not to try and go white-hat and create a sustainable business? That new kid will need feeding and clothing for many years to come

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm definitely working my way through reading the crash course and making a plan. @Darth I'm definitely trying to go as white hat as possible with this. Goal is to build something worth selling in the next couple years. I realized the other day after all of my time making money online on and off since 2008 I literally only have 2-3 domains worth showing to anyone right now.

Just about everything was churn and burn non sustainable crap.

1) Disavow: Yes. They can probably ignore bad sites but they're crowd sourcing machine learning, it seems.

2) WMT: Nah. I do make separate accounts in case I sell a site, but I don't hide my identity. You said you don't intend on being a spammer so there's no issues.

3) Analytics: Yeah. I want them to know everything they can about my site's metrics so they can rank me higher, because I'm doing it better than all of my competitors.

4) Ahrefs: Yes. I use Ahrefs for the bulk of my disavow work (once a month), then you can peek at the free Majestic and Webmaster Tools to find more if you want. Ahrefs is great for their backlink crawling for research and disavow. No better option right now.

5) PBNs: I wouldn't even bother. The entire internet can be your PBN if you're willing to be a marketer, do outreach, etc. (No overhead, better links, no risk of asset loss of PBN domain or penalty to your business sites)

6) Tiers: No. If I do any of this, it might be a few dofollow comments to help crawling and indexing, but really I don't even recommend that now. I simply wouldn't touch spam anymore. I'd get it out of your head entirely if you want longevity and growing passive income. Otherwise you're churning and burning inside a tighter window of time and constantly rebuilding. Might as well have a day job. That's not even a business, it's just littering the internet on hard mode.

7) Social: Same with spam, I don't do fake signals or followers. Each platform lets you advertise for real fans, which can then help you build your snow ball of growth. Some of the sites I know with the best backlink profiles don't do any link work. Their social fans do it for them.

PS) Profiles: 3/3, tells you on the homepage in the big box at the top until you meet the requirements.

Welcome to the team!

I am yet another WF refugee. Just looking for a decent place on the Internets to hang out, learn, and talk shit. Got my career started on WF about 5-6 years ago. Steadily climbed up from "stoked to find $3 so I could afford Taco Bell" to "comfortable 6-figure income and living on the beach".

Currently, I have a two projects that I'm actively spending money on – a software product and an info product. I'm a programmer and writer, but my ultimate goal is to be what I think of as "purely entrepreneurial" – that is, entirely in the role of CEO/investor. I want to make money by knowing how to move resources around to make them most productive, and I want to get paid just for making decisions, taking risks and capitalizing on my insight. I'm on this path now with my two current projects. I'm doing minimal work myself and outsourcing everything that I can, saving my efforts for where I have the biggest impact.

I joined this forum a while ago, but just decided I should start posting a bit. Let's make some money!

Welcome to the club. Are you doing a lot of PPC to advertise your two current projects?